Donovan to City Still Plausible

Update here, 07/21:

Sky Sports is reporting that Landon Donovan to Manchester City is still a possibility for Roberto Mancini and crew.

Below our opine on the potential move right after the conclusion of the World Cup.

Here, our thougths on Don Garber’s commentary on Donovan from a week ago.

“Hey Garber, say Manchester City offers something you can’t refuse, what are you going to tell Los Angeles Galaxy ticket holders who you promised that Donovan wasn’t going anywhere?”

According to a great many responses on Twitter, it’s “Ronaldinho.”

…and the, uh, Manchester City community is not to keen on this possibility.

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Lando headed eastward...and just a tad further?

From June 27th:

Just a brief moment here on this story that Landon Donovan is in consideration for a transfer to Manchester City.

Beyond the obvious–that is Manchester City played a 4-3-3 last year and Donovan would be an ideal option on the right wing to replace Craig Bellamy opposite perhaps Adam Johnson–Manchester City was recently deemed by Forbes one of the “poorest” clubs in the world. (Read the description here of why.) The Yahoo story title from the link above is not only a misnomer; the headline is just plain wrong.

TSG mentioned two months ago  that the 300M people in the United States represents a major, potential, source of supporter dollars for a club that needs to diversity its revenue stream.

Manchester City will take some time–and may never be–number one in Manchester. The big four–still–of Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool dominate revenues in the English Premier League. So here is way to gain a whole new set of fans, in a potential lucrative market.

Really a no brainer when you consider Donovan’s present abilities.

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39 responses to this post.

  1. ugh. Possible, but ugh.

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  2. Posted by Bob on 2010/06/28 at 3:15 AM

    If LD is only thinking about $, then it is possible. But, at 28, I don’t think that it is as important to him. According to Wahl (in his book and a recent article), LD is more about the team and spirit of the playing environment. I don’t see him fitting into a club built on ego and dysfunction. As late as April, he said that Everton is the only EPL team he would play for. He plays well in their environment and really enjoyed his time there (see what pic he chose for his twitter account). He likes his teammates there (see recent Facebook comments). If Pienaar goes, they can get the money to bring LD back. At least I hope so….

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  3. Lando to Man City? friggin shoot me now

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  4. Posted by Sam on 2010/06/28 at 5:30 AM

    First of all, I think everyone who ever looked at a soccer ball is on Man City’s transfer watch list.

    Second of all, Hodgson taking over at Liverpool may have great repercussions among our players if he does in fact have any Fulhamerica in him. I’ve been thinking that the whole Fulham/USA thing was just a way to tap cheaper transfers as stop-gap measures… which given Liverpool’s financial situation gives me good cause to believe that at least one yank will be playing there soon.

    The problem I think, Landon-wise, is does he cash out? Or does he go where he can have the biggest impact and get the most playing time? Given that he seems smart enough to adjust his game for any lost pace I’d definitely still hope for him to be playing well in 2014, so getting quality playing time in a good league is still an issue.

    There’s a lot of teams that could use him, in theory, but Man City seems to be a lot like a billionaires garage these days, filled with expensive toys that don’t get driven but exist only to increase the prestige of the owner.

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    • I can tell you right now that if Hodgson takes over at Liverpool AND he brings on Dempsey… I will be in heaven. I would buy a ‘pool Dempsey shirt before the ink dries on the contract.

      Hell if Roy brought any Yank I’d do it.

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    • Posted by matthewsf on 2010/06/28 at 10:11 AM

      Sam — good points — like I mentioned above. Let’s look at this way. Let’s assume–just for this comment–that Donovan is the same talent level as say Dirk Kuyt.

      Because of Donovan’s star appeal and more importantly because of this ties to US fan dollars a team would choose Donovan first over Kuft if they needed a “winger.”

      I think with Donovan the question is what does MLS want for him and where he wants to play. Everton may not be able to afford him–if as MLS’s Don Garber says “some players just don’t have a price…” (what that means is some players have an inflated price).

      So the question is what does MLS want. What does Donovan want. Perhaps Man City is one of the few teams that can afford it because they can bring in that Donovan States revenue stream.

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    • Posted by M.Ricci on 2010/07/21 at 12:56 PM

      Lando said when he Left Everton that he would only want to play for Everton if he came back to the EPL… I can’t imagine after that he would go to the other their Darby rival

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  5. If Landon ends up in Manchester maybe he can hit up Giggs about that whole yoga thing.

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  6. Please no!!!!

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  7. Posted by Braden on 2010/06/28 at 11:12 AM

    Just throwing this out there but Donovan at Everton and Dempsey at Liverpool would be . . . interesting.

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    • Posted by matthewsf on 2010/06/28 at 12:26 PM

      Great point Braden. The funny thing is both those clubs and their style of play suit the prospective American.

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  8. Posted by maxq on 2010/07/21 at 1:18 PM

    Man City fans are the worst.

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  9. The message boards amuse me. 2 years ago City would have loved to be in Everton’s shoes, now they’re *apparently* sooooo much better than Everton. Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t their billions, new players, and new manager only get them 6 more points than Everton last season? I’m not buying into the City being a top 4 club, and snubbing players from any nation based on having played for “lesser” clubs, until they actually prove it by staying there for 4 or 5 years.

    As for Donovan not being better than what they already have, I’m not too familiar with all of City’s squad, but the only players like Donovan that I recall are SWP and Bellamy. Bellamy I would argue is equal, if not better than, to ‘Cakes, but SWP certainly isn’t at this point in time.

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    • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2010/07/21 at 2:25 PM

      City fans used to look at United and their fans with utter disgust because most were not from Manchester and United bought their success (over a period of time). Now that City are the big kid in the playground with the most pocket money, they seem to forgot their prior grievances. If I ever get the chance to visit Man City, I cannot wait to sing “where were you when you were sh1t!”

      Nick: I agree with your assessment regarding Donovan vs Bellamy and SWP. They also have Adam Johnson, but he is still unproven at the highest EPL level.

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      • Posted by Bob on 2010/07/21 at 6:41 PM

        They also have Silva …

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      • I would agree with the message boards that dropping a ton of cash on a 28 year old is not the best idea given they have youth, but to outright claim he’s a lesser player than unproven talent is complete bullsh1t.

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  10. Posted by MJ on 2010/07/21 at 3:47 PM

    Is it a given, or as near as one can be, that Everton can’t afford LD and is therefore no longer a possibility (not that they could’ve afforded him at some earlier point mind you)? I gotta figure that if here were to go to Man City especially the love Evertonians gave him will quickly evaporate.

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    • Posted by matthewsf on 2010/07/21 at 3:52 PM

      Everton have stated no more transfers. That said they likely need to sell Arteta or Pienaar in order to manage player movement and expense.

      The reason I believe there is a little more to the Man City rumors is that Man City need to grow revenue outside the epl and the States represents a lucrative market and Man City are trying to sell Bellamy who happens to play Landon’s position.

      The question is does Donovan want to move and would Citizens be the right fit.

      Not sure on either answer.

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  11. Posted by dikranovich on 2010/07/21 at 4:08 PM

    matthew dude, you keep going on about some revenue stream or some stuff, when really, if man city are looking at donovan, dont you think it is because of his ability more than anything else? not for nothing matthew, but by keep going on about money and revenue streams, you are in a sense devaluing donovan and really, american players in general.

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    • Posted by matthewsf on 2010/07/21 at 4:15 PM

      Hardly devaluing.

      The reality is there are a number of players out there for Manchester City to purchase and they seem to spare no expense.

      Answer this question. Why did New York Red Bull bring in Rafa Marquez? Or Chicago Nery Castillo.

      Donovan is clearly talented enough as I’ve stated and as he is an excellent fit for Mancini’s scheme and he represents new opportunity for Manchester City?

      I’m hardly devaluing US players. Your point seems emotional based and unfounded.

      Here’s another question? Why did Manchester City just launch into a non profit support partnership with a number of nyc amatuer soccer groups?

      How come they didn’t do those charitable partnerships in say….Winnapeg?

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      • Posted by GeorgeCross on 2010/07/21 at 8:09 PM

        It is possible to purchase a very good player who also has the bonus of being a marketable asset. I think what Matthew is saying is that Man City would probably not spend the inflated price – please see my previous comment regarding true transfer value vs vlaue to MLS (http://theshinguardian.com/2010/07/15/landons-league-poor-move-garber/#comment-18773) if there wasn’t the economic benefit on top of getting a quality player. Let’s be clear here, Man City aren’t buying a Chinese MNTer who isn’t good enough for the EPL just to sell t-shirts in a country with +1bn population…

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      • Matthew’s comments aren’t a devaluation of Landon’s talents, but more an insight to ALL of ManCity’s intentions, which as George pointed out is to get a good player but to also reap economic benefits via making in-roads here in the US fanbase (a certain other soccer blog that shall remain nameless has sponsor banners announcing ManCity’s new U.S. website). Similar to Gooch being signed to AC Milan prior to the beginning of their US tour last summer…

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        • Posted by matthewsf on 2010/07/22 at 2:44 PM

          Here’s the article you want to read: http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/21/soccer-value-teams-business-sports-soccer-10-intro_2.html

          Manchester City–unlike most other top, and free-spending clubs–don’t even own their market, Manchester United obviously do.

          2/3 of revenue goes to City (as the article says) — player investment trumped revenue last year…in short they are way in the red.

          Now, the tolerance of the owners is not known, but with what happened at Pompey, Manchester City are at least going to need to close the profit loss gap to keep the value of the franchise up and remove any doubt that the club is 100% viable.

          With any club, you want to remove the impetuousness of ownership as a major variable in the equation….

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        • Posted by dikranovich on 2010/07/23 at 6:35 AM

          i guess this thread was not actually closed afterall.

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  12. Posted by dikranovich on 2010/07/21 at 4:40 PM

    matthew matthew matthew, man city is doing a partnership in new york over winnipeg becasuse this is soccer not hockey. im not sure why you would think donovan playing in a 4-3-3 would be a good fit for him, when you know donovan likes to play out of the midfield and likes to have attackers in front of him. and matthew, i know your not suggesting donovan play part of a three man midfield.

    im sure with regards to the mexicant players coming to MLS it has to do with the mexican fan base, and probably more so with the fact that these teams have dp slots and the money. and new york likes the idea of pairing marquez with his barca teamate and there are a good number of greeks in chicago and they might like to see one of their boys doing up MLS, if he can stay healthy, which is unlikely. give me jemal johnson over nery castillo anyway.

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    • Posted by matthewsf on 2010/07/21 at 4:52 PM

      Oh my word…ok my last response here.

      Mr. Donovan thrived-up top–at Everton on the right side of the 4-3-3.

      Moyes liked his play there, Bradley commented that he liked his play there and for those paying attention to the games, we saw his play to be excellent from that position.

      I was implying that Rafa Marquez signing has to do with the Mexican fan base and Barca pedigree, less to do with a huge impact on the field….making my Donovan point.

      Okay, closing my thread here.

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  13. Posted by dikranovich on 2010/07/21 at 5:55 PM

    hold up, i mean hold right up there son with that nonsense. let me go into my basement and pull up some facts and get back to you, this thread is still open.

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    • Posted by Antonio H. on 2010/07/21 at 8:45 PM

      pretty sure he said the thread was closed. I also agree with you on Demps being our best option as a lone striker….Should Jozy play as a winger then?

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  14. Posted by kaya on 2010/07/21 at 6:24 PM

    Sky Sports is also reporting Landon as “[t]he former Bayer Leverkusen star”… did they hire a Sun reporter?

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  15. Posted by dikranovich on 2010/07/21 at 6:34 PM

    matthew, i dont want to battle with you just to battle with you. we are both fans of usa. maybe you like san jose and im for dc united. you won against dc united maybe in the first ever mls game, but dc united is still the gold standard in MLS.

    now be honest, the funny thing about the everton situation is that im not sure everton even had three healthy strikers last year. donovan played in game on jan 16th of last year, ironically against citeh. the attack was listed as saha, the frog, and cahill. the central mid was that fellani fellow and peanut. the left mid is bilynetov and right mid, you guessed it. show me how this team could actually form a 4-3-3? saha on the wing? you know he is not a true winger, he is an out and out striker. cahill, you know he is a withdrawn striker in a 4-4-1-1 or an attacking mid in a 4-5-1. be honest matthew, dont be trying to plop the wolly mammouth on anybody.

    donovan could probably play in a 4-3-3 in the winger spot, because he is getting better and better. but dont be trying to put me down because you say everton played a 4-3-3, when that just does not prove to be the case. i mean even when yak came back and the acheimbi kid, they still dont have the players to play 4-3-3. when our boy donovan got to everton they were flirting with the basement and you know what, teams in the bottom half of the table, in any league, they dont play such offensive formations like the 4-3-3, not if they want to stay in the flight they are in anyway.

    peace be with you matthew.

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  16. Posted by Bob on 2010/07/21 at 6:45 PM

    Via twitter … Ives is reporting this update: “Word from folks at NY Football Challenge presser is that Roberto Mancini’s words were hardly an admission of intent to sign Landon Donovan.”

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    • Posted by Bob on 2010/07/21 at 6:56 PM

      Also via Twitter from the Daily Mail: “Mancini’s suggestion he is interested in Landon Donovan not true. Merely being polite to his USA hosts here in NYC.”

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  17. Posted by Shane_K83 on 2010/07/23 at 7:59 PM

    Read the Post by the Citeh fans.. NO Class with their lot.. If Donovan considered going to Shity he would be known as a Sell out punk to me.

    p.s. No worries though, I dont think he would even consider it..

    p.s.s. Man Citeh fans = shit..

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  18. Posted by dikranovich on 2010/07/25 at 8:05 AM

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=810175&sec=transfers&cc=5901

    there are a lot of good tee shirt sales in this group.

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