Re-Publish: Turkish Delight

When in Istanbul.

A few years ago, in an effort to find myself, I quit my job and decided to work for myself; so that I could travel the world. Leaving potential clients hanging in the wind, skipping town in the beginning of a relationship (that ultimately failed), and avoiding general responsibilities wasn’t the best idea, but I was youngish and stupid!

My travels took me to Istanbul, Turkey and as a huge soccer fan, I had to go to a couple of games. My goal was to watch a game at the famed Ali Sami Yen stadium, where Galatasaray play. I had read stories and seen pictures of manic fans wielding cutlasses with fires a blazing behind them, and I wanted to see this for myself. Sadly, the only game they were scheduled to play during my time there, was a Champions League game against Bordeaux at the Olympic Stadium (where Liverpool won in 05 in a thriller against AC Milan), as Ali Sami Yen was deemed too small to host a Champions League match.

European side of Istanbul, taken from the Asian side docks.

Below are my experiences at a Super Lig game and at the Champions League group game.

Fenerbache vs Antalyaspor
Around 6pm, I proceeded to buy a ticket to Kadikoy which is on the Asian side of Istanbul. I still can’t get over the fact that I went from Europe to Asia in 20 minutes to watch a football game, but there you are. According to the website the game was supposed to start at 8pm, so I wanted to get there early and take some pics of the more fanatical fans. I expected the boat to be full of Fenerbache fans in their blue and yellow striped jerseys, but surprisingly they weren’t…more on that in a bit.

I did see a couple of fans, and was intending to follow them to the stadium, which I was told was about 2 kilometers from the dock. I disembarked just in time for a rather spectacular sunset over the European side of Istanbul so I stopped to take some pics.

"Excuse me, I think you're in my seat" would not fly here!

This turned out not to be the best idea as I had lost the Fenerbache fans. It was also beginning to worry me that I didn’t see any fans out at all. I set out in the general direction of where I thought the stadium was, and after a couple of wrong turns and some friendly advice from a kebab vendor, I was back on the right course. About half a km away, I started hearing chanting so I followed the noise. At about this time I saw a TV inside a restaurant which was showing the game. I looked at my ticket and all of a sudden I saw 7pm…CRAP…website said 8pm. So I started running. That’s why there were no fans out; instead of getting their 40 minutes early, I was 20 minutes late.

Got to my gate, went through the whole song and dance of explaining what was in my bag etc.. and then the security guys asked me where I was from. They almost fell on the floor when I said San Francisco. They couldn’t believe that someone would travel so far to see a game. I didn’t have the heart to say that I didn’t really care who won, and I was just there for the experience, and plus they seemed so amused that A) I was 20 minutes late and B) I was from California, that I got a special escort to the entrance of my section.

My view for the second half. Not pictured is scary hugging man behind me.

I’m not sure if any of you have been to a European soccer game let alone a Turkish one, but 60,000 plus fans screaming, banging on drums, and whistling is a pretty intense situation. These people were nuts. Now I had a ticket for a specific seat, but there was no way in hell I was going to get there. I couldn’t even get through the tunnel into my section. People were standing on the seats, in between the seats, in the aisles, on top of bars and on the guard rail and the fans and the stadium was bouncing.

Remembering my days in the mosh pit, I pogo-sticked my way to a place where I could see. It’s really hard to describe 60, 000 plus people chanting in unison and gesticulating wildly whenever the referee, a Fenerbache player or an opposing player did anything, but lets just say it was bedlam. The first half of play was pretty much dominated by Fenerbache, but they failed to put away some easy opportunities. There was quite a bit of theatrical diving which is always amusing. At halftime the score was 0-0 and I got myself in a position along the guard rail over looking the lower sections. Great view, but I couldn’t help thinking that a large push from the fella’s behind me would easily send me over the edge.

At half time the crowd, with the action stopped, turned their attention to taunting the 50 or so Antalyspor fans, who had their own special section that was surrounded by iron fences and what looked like barbed wire.

Celebrating the third goal.

Second half started where the first left off. Sloppy play all around. Then in the 65th minute Fenerbache scored. As you can imagine the place E!-rrupted.

People screamed and whistled. There was hugging and kissing all around. I barely had time to disengage myself from one of the fans behind me (the sort of guy I might just cross the street if I saw him at night time) when Antalyaspor equalized. Dead silence.

This was followed by what I can only imagine were the worst sort of insults directed at the referee and the Antalyaspor players. 5 minutes later Fenerbache scored again. More hugging from scary men. This was the second most dubious of goals behind Maradona’s hand of god that I’ve ever seen. The forward basically caught the ball and placed it on his foot and shot – though apparently myself, the 50 opposing fans and the Antalyaspor players were the only people who saw it.

3 minutes later they scored for a third time. Another 5 minutes and Antalyaspor scored again making the last 10 minutes of the game very tense. With 3 minutes left, Fenerbache scored again making 4-2. The stadium went crazy. I had resorted to high-fiving at this point (my body was little achy from the passionate hugging) and slapped everyone’s hand around me. The whistle blew to end the game and we all poured out of the stadium and headed toward the docks. The ferry ride back was one large sing song and thumping fest, and I was seriously worried that they would sink the boat.

Good crowd, but it would have been better at Ali Sami Yen.

Galatasaray vs Bordeaux – 3 days later
I took a much needed nap and woke up at 5 and got ready for the game. This basically consisted of me putting on my newly purchased Galatasaray shirt. The plan was that Matthew from Winnipeg and I would go to the Ali Sami Yen stadium to meet Emily and Suzie from Seattle and we would take a Galatasary sponsored shuttle to Atatirk Olympic stadium about 30 minutes away to see the game. Galatasaray typically play at Ali Sami Yen, but its considered too small (only 30,000 or so capacity) for a Champions League game.

Young Galatasaray fan.

The bus ride was intense. Every few minutes songs were being sung and everyone was clapping and banging on anything they could touch. Parts of the roof were crumbling on my head, but it didn’t matter, the atmosphere was amazing. Oddly one of the songs was sung to the same tune as Karma Chameleon by Culture Club. We didn’t know the Galatasaray version so we just sung the version we knew. After awhile we noticed that we were barely moving. This lasted for 2 hours. The only time the bus would get into second gear was when we came to an exit on the highway and the bus would pretend to go off the exit so that he could pick up speed and in the last second swerve back on the highway. This always produced huge cheers from the crowd in the bus. We were by far the largest vehicle on the road so we made it back each time but there were some close calls. Remember the ride should have only taken 30 minutes.

We were probably the only people on the bus who had no concept where we were in relation to the stadium. We were moving about .5 miles per hour. We checked the time and to our amazement it was 9:25. We had been on the bus for 2 and a half hours. At this point Matthew inadvertently pushed a button and the door in front of us swung open. Thinking that the driver was letting us all out due to the bus being in stopped traffic, we rushed out and with a couple of others. We looked behind us and realized that 99% of the other passengers had stayed on the bus and the doors had shut, but that’s also when we saw the stadium. A futuristic structure on top of a hill in the middle of nowhere. It looked like a convertible spaceship.

Game was boring and the track kept the fans from having a real impact.

From where we were it looked about a kilometer away and the traffic wasn’t moving so we decided to follow the increasing number of fans who were running in the direction of the stadium. We broke out in a jog.

Sweaty and glowing we got to our gates and split up (my section was different then theirs). The atmosphere was electric, but because this was an Olympic stadium with a track and other necessities for field events, the crowd was a ways away from the pitch. Unfortunately this meant one didn’t get the same intense “party/riot” feeling as at the Fenerbache game. I actually was standing in my designated row, though my seat was a few away.

Flares but no cutlasses...sigh

The game itself was kind of boring. The French were super defensive, getting 11 people behind the ball and no one could control the midfield which inevitably leads to sloppy, boring play, and it takes a very disciplined team (which Galatasaray are not) to score in such conditions. The crowd was constantly screaming, chanting and lighting flares which made things very exciting, but as the game plodded on and Galatasaray’s attacks were either thwarted or they gave it away, the crowd grew restless and disinterested. The game ended 0-0 and the fans were disappointed.

Finding the others we then tried to figure out the best way to get home. The parking lot was an absolute mess. Istanbul doesn’t have the infrastructure to deal with 6 million people and their cars. cars were parked in every direction, there were no traffic controllers and it was free for all. It was chaos defined. We finally got a cab (bus was so packed that it sagged) and got home at 1am. Exhausted I went straight to bed.

10 responses to this post.

  1. […] The Fan In You « Turkish delight […]


  2. Posted by Mud on 2011/01/28 at 1:47 PM

    I’ve never been to Turkey so I will have to ask this question.

    Is Americans liked there? Should we worry about Baby Bradley’s safety while living there?

    Sorry for being an ignorant American but I’ve never been there so I don’t know how we are “taken” there.


    • Posted by John on 2011/01/28 at 1:54 PM

      Probably safer than Glasgow.

      Every place that I have been where people say “they are unfriendly or don’t like Americans” has been the exact opposite.

      Don’t confuse dislike for government as dislike for people.
      (then again I haven’t been to Turkey, although it is coming up on the docket)

      Your mileage may vary.


    • Posted by sfshwebb on 2011/01/28 at 2:02 PM

      Mud – A perfectly reasonable question. I had no problems, but I have darkish skin, so most people assumed I was Turkish and then when I spoke, they thought I was British (I am). I told people where I lived, so in the end most people thought I was American.

      Like John said, 99% of people in other countries can distinguish tourists from the governments they come from, so where as people might criticise American politics (Bush was in power at the time), it was done in a conversational manner and not in an attacking sense. It was also only brought up after you had met someone for a bit.

      That said there are assholes everywhere in every culture and country including our own.

      Bradley will be fine. He will be judged by his performances on the pitch, unless he does or says something in the press that is uncalled for or rude.


      • Posted by sfshwebb on 2011/01/28 at 2:04 PM

        Oh and if you get a chance, you should check out Turkey. I sadly only went to Istanbul which is an incredible mixture of eastern and western cultures. Food is amazing, people fantastic and the city incredible. From what i’ve heard the rest of the country is pretty amazing too.

        The soccer matches are amazing too. Bring cigarettes. Made lots of friends during halftime which enabled me to get the squished position up front for the second half!


        • Posted by Mud on 2011/01/28 at 4:30 PM

          Thanks for the reply man! Turkey sounds like a good time then. I retract my previous statement I said to you earlier on twitter Matt. I’m kinda glad he ended up there now.

          Webb I’m gonna read this article when I get home from work. Haven’t got to read it in full yet as I’ve been pretty busy today.


  3. Posted by Mud on 2011/01/28 at 4:30 PM

    that is if he *does* end up there.


  4. Posted by Noah on 2011/01/28 at 9:58 PM

    the games in turkey sound awesome! i have never been to a game outside the US, and i am trying to figure out where i should go for a crazy atmosphere. where is the best atmosphere at a game that youve seen? i was kind of thinking panathinakos, my number 1 choice would be USA/Mex at azteca but i dont know when thats gonna happen again.


    • Posted by sfshwebb on 2011/01/28 at 11:31 PM

      This was pretty amazing, but the Madrid Classico was also great. Anywhere which has a combo of good (and safe) rivalries will be an amazing experience. I would love to check out US/Mex at azteca!


  5. Posted by AJK on 2011/01/29 at 2:43 AM

    Cool stuff.

    I’m an American who lives in Istanbul and have picked Galatasaray as my team over here, so yeah. Pretty, pretty, good.

    Cim Bom just moved into a new, UEFA 5-star stadium:

    As for the team, they’re alright but had some trouble earlier in the year. Lucas Neill and Servet aren’t getting any younger. Their best player is Arda Turan, but he’ll likely be leaving soon on transfer. I find them kind of frustrating: they play down to their opponents, etc. They got blown out by Buraspor the one time I saw them.

    That said, hell yeah, MB is coming to IST. I’ll get to a match and report, if you’d like.

    The fans REALLY REALLY CARE, which is a lot of fun. But from what I’ve gathered, Turkcell Arena is much more of an NFL experience. No more, yknow, launching flares unto the field (

    As for the league? Yeah, probably on par with France or Netherlands in the 2nd tier. There are 5 great teams and a lot of meh. Galatasaray is the “old money” team, Fenerbahce is new money, Besiktas is the working class/hipster team (they’re the ones with Quaresma, Guti, Simao, Nihat), and Trabzonspor and Bursaspor are the teams from outside Istanbul.

    So yeah, it’s not exactly lateral from Bbach, but it’s something.


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