TSG’s Official US vs. Panama Preview

The United States with a big rebound Tuesday evening on the heals of the Spanish Boston Massacre.

In 2009, Clarence Goodson replaced an injured Jimmy Conrad to help the US on to a 2-1 victory in the Gold Cup quarterfinal. Goodson will again look to undercut Panama striker Blas Perez (pictured)

Sucking in Canada’s outside combo of Simeon Jackson and Josh Simpson deeply on the left, the US countered and controlled the flow of the game against the Canadians through the feet of Steve Cherundolo and Landon Donovan in the first. Jozy Altidore’s shot may not have been La Liga class–heck it may not have even been SPL class–but he used his body well and reinforced the elderly adage, “You can’t score if you don’t shoot.”

In the 2nd half with the United States morphing to a 4-5-1 of sorts, it was the Clint Dempsey Show as, unencumbered from right flank defensive responsibilities, Dempsey flew around the attacking third, notching the 2nd goal of the game. The US took it 2-0.

For their part, Panama, too, got their Gold Cup group stage off to a positive if slightly less emphatic start. The Panamanians went up early on the Guadeloupe and then held on and held off a harried down-a-man comeback to take their Game 1, 3-2.

The wins for both respective teams set up different mindsets heading into Game 2 Saturday in Tampa, Florida.

The United States will be looking to punish a Panama side that typically plays pack-it-in ball, looking to use Game 3 against Guadeloupe as a respite for their starters and to test out some of those that have been playing the scout team in training.

Meanwhile, the Panamanians–with Canada’s defeat to the US–have a little breathing room in this game as the winner of their Maple Leaf showdown in Game 3 will likely decide who the second team through is. They’ll probably look to steal one here and at worst keep any goal deficit better than their next opponent did.

The last time the US played Panama in Gold Cup 2009, it struggled at first with Route 1 football, hucking passes up to Brian Ching and Davy Arnaud and then not providing support. A tactical change by Bob Bradley to withdraw Robbie Rogers and push Heath Pearce up on the left flank started to open up some space for the runs of….wait for it…Kenny Cooper.

The US will face the same challenges in width here without giving exposing their backline.

Oh and expect the Yanks first set piece goal in this one. Panama is not a big team and with the front end of Landon Donovan or Michael Bradley in close proximity and the backend of a Clarence Goodson or Carlos Bocanegra coming up, the United States has a distinct advantage here.

Let’s get to our customary TSG preview. It goes:

About The Opponent: Panama

TSG What Are We Looking For/At

11 At The Whistle

Disclaimers

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About The Opponent: Panama

Panama runs a standard 4-4-2 and they look to stay compact in the back and defend at all costs. Given that a draw would be a good hope, don’t expect the PANAMA Canal minders to open up and let any comers through. (I know, that was terrible and thanks for the “oops” moment in the comments).

The standard 4-4-2 of Panama

Above is their standard deployment and the biggest question for the Yanks will be how Tim Ream and Clarence Goodson manage the veteran pair of Luis Tejada and Blas Perez up top. The two were responsible for simple offball movement in concert to beat the terribly disorganized Guadeloupe central backtandem of Vlator and Lambourde. Basically just a lot of crisscrossing and short diagonal runs while their wingers stayed wide.

Ream and Goodson have more skill but only two starting reps together. This game will challenge their communication with one another with Tim Howard bellowing behind them.

Beyond the forwards, Panama will need to play a very good game to get the better of the States. Gabriel Gomez and Amílcar Henríquez anchor the interior of the midfield, both are regulars on their respective Colombian league clubs though neither standouts.

Carlos Bocanegra will has some work to do to contain Armando Cooper on his flank. The young Panamanian has progressed through the youth system ranks, has better than average pace and a usable outside shot. However, look for balls to be played through and over the top to Cooper and for the winger himself to make through balls and even crosses to the heads of Tejada and Perez his primary goal. The US will need to be careful–if they play a high line–about Cooper running behind it.

On the left is another youngster in 23-year-old Nelson Barahona with a lot of straight ahead speed, some dribbling ability and little else. The extremely poor man’s Luis Boa Morte.

The quarterback of the backline, their captain and probably their best player is Felipe Baloy. He’s a regular at Santos in the Primera, home of American Adrian Ruelas. Baloy and fellow veteran Luis Henriquez do a solid job on the left side of the line for Panama, it’s the right side where the US will likely look to attack down that side a little more in this match. The right centerback is 22-year-old wet-behind-the-ears Edgar Dascent; he of all of 3 caps to his name. Split out wide is Adolfo Macheda. Both are challenged in maintaining their marks.

Veteran Jaime Peneda will attempt to keep the net.

TSG: What Are We Looking For?

• Can the Yanks dictate the tempo and the game to Canada? Can they couple two solid performances in a row

We told you we would belabor this point…and it’s just starting. The US controlled the run of play for long stretches against Canada. It was a more impressive effort than expected.

Against a Panamanian team that plays a lot like Paraguay–though not nearly as talented–can the States continue to impose their will?

• How should and how will Landon Donovan be deployed?

Most recently against Paraguay’s 4-4-2, Donovan was effectively taken out of the game. Some of this may have been from knee tendonitis that forced Donovan’s club team to rest the US star for two weeks following his return from US duty.

Donovan on the interior sometimes gets lost in games like this and forces the US to rely on Clint Dempsey.

Is the US vastly superior to Panama and thus this will not be an issue or does Bob Bradley make a slight tweak to Donovan’s deployment to take advantage of the Yanks goal leader?

Jozy needs to continue to use his frame...

• Does Altidore rip off a good string of games here?

Our second game, our second talking point about Altidore. Altidore was good, not great against Panama.

He needs to move more and he needs to initiate contact much more.

Will he up his game again in the second Gold Cup go around. Fans can’t wait to find out.

• Will Freddy Adu make the bench?

If any group stage game offers the opportunity to see Adu in a sub role, this is the one with Panama fairly cookie-cutter defense.

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11 at the Whistle

The US will likely stay with their 4-4-2. Most recently against Paraguay the US moved the ball well when Dempsey was cutting in from the left and Donovan went wide right. Bob Bradley's selection of fullbacks will be interesting in this one....or not...

The skinny: Well fans, we blew it last time. Got Bob Bradley and the line-up off. Bradley going with players, like Juan Agudelo, who played more than 60 mins against Spain and using a youthful centerback pairing of Tim Ream and Clarence Goodson.
Hopefully less mistakes this time.

G: Tim Howard

DEF: Steve Cherundolo, Clarence Goodson, Tim Ream, Carlos Bocanegra

The skinny: Nothing extraordinary here. Goodson and Ream should be given another run together. Carlos Bocanegra mans the left, providing a veteran for Ream to help manage the game. Steve Cherundolo likely back out to the right.

It’s possible that both Jonathan Spector and Jonathan Bornstein start–both present advantages and the ability to rest the two oldest outfield players for the Yanks.

If you need to select one to give your line-up at home a little wrinkle, pick Bornstein. With the Yanks probably looking to attack the left side a little more in Game 2 and Armando Cooper somewhat able to get up the flank, Bornstein would give Bradley the opportunity to actually get a fullback up in the attack to support Clint Dempsey.

CDM: Jermaine Jones, Michael Bradley

The skinny: The formula already looks set here with Jermaine Jones and Michael Bradley having their best game yet when paired against Canada. Maurice Edu looks a step behind their quality and relieves if necessary.

MID: Clint Dempsey, Landon Donovan

The skinny:  Dempsey will be relied on more in this game to help create, while Donovan–recovered from whatever illness–needs to show the stamina that has long been his hallmark. Donovan will likely be pushed a little wider than against Canada.

STR: Jozy Altidore, Juan Agudelo

The skinny:  Looking to start building chemistry, Bradley continues to start Juan Agudelo and Jozy Altidore together here. Agudelo will be 22 in 2014; Altidore 25.

Disclaimers:

• The US backline either includes Bornstein or Spector.

Odds: 15%

» The skinny: Not a totally wild thought, but given Game 3 opponent Gaudeloupe likes to get up and down the pitch more, maybe Dolo or Boca gets a rest. Wouldn’t bet on it though.

• Robbie Rogers on the left; Dempsey pushed up top

Odds: 5%

» The skinny: Stranger things have happened, but worth noting here as it was Rogers work creating width in 2009 that started creating space for an advancing Heath Pearce that opened up the game in the Gold Cup quarterfinal. I would bet on Rogers being on the game day roster and possibly being a 2nd half sub.

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67 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by dth on 2011/06/09 at 12:50 PM

    You know, I wonder whether Lichaj at LB is a better option than Bornstein and Bocanegra–Lichaj mixes the better qualities of each of them (the runs forward of Bornstein, with better ball skills plus more defensive responsibility).

    Also: Adrian Ruelas just moved on to Jaguares t

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    • Posted by matthewsf on 2011/06/09 at 12:59 PM

      Thanks – did not know that.

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    • Posted by matthewsf on 2011/06/09 at 4:11 PM

      I doubt in this case Lichaj would be used if Bradley is looking for width…he’s just not going to be able to get up the flank and make that cross off his left in one fell swoop.

      Another option for Bradley would be Rogers there and just keeping him extremely wide and bring Lichaj up as more of late arribving hub….in that manner Jermaine Jones or Bradley would be tasked with covering over Lichaj–that’s probably (playing against a 4-4-2) not the way to go in this one.

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      • Posted by Nelsonaoatl on 2011/06/09 at 10:27 PM

        sorry Matty Ice, but I have more faith in Lichaj and a backwards right foot than Bornstein and his mediocre fullback skills.

        Also, can we nickname Adu the cookie monster if he eats up the defense?

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        • Posted by matthewsf on 2011/06/10 at 11:52 AM

          Fine on cookie monster, not Golden Oldie?

          As for Lichaj, won’t work with the Yanks play when they dish out to the left with Lichaj….most cases where you saw an advanced left winger it was one of two ways.

          1) Streaking up the left after Deuce had cut centrally, ball played in space. Takes too much time to reset on your right foot, plus the arc of the ball is going wrong way

          2) To create width after the US had advanced in possession–or threat of the cross. Same situation there.

          With Lichaj, what typically happened is he either came up in support, but not to create width or moved centrally.

          This is going to sound scary, but if you want to play Lichaj on the left, you pretty much have to play Rogers too so he can threaten the cross.

          Anywho…

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          • Posted by Nelsonaoatl on 2011/06/10 at 9:57 PM

            see Ronaldo slash portugese around the left foot right footed cross to the right. its just a fancy dance move and any lad could learn if not manage it.

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    • Posted by Alex on 2011/06/09 at 4:53 PM

      Just a loan move for Ruelas, though. Hopefully will get more PT on the team that finished in last place in the Clausura.

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  2. Posted by Alex on 2011/06/09 at 1:02 PM

    Ooo, Jozy vs a CB wit 2 intl. caps. Hopefully he can come out on top and do well again.
    I could see Wondo starting though. He wasn’t impressive vs Canada but at that point we didn’t need him to be. I just have this feeling that Bob might want to test him out, with Agudelo coming off the bench (he seems to be more impressive that way).
    I also think Lichaj might just be higher up the LB ladder than Bornstein. Made the bench against Canada, played 90 vs Spain (and wasn’t bad defensively). I mean, would you rather have an in-form wrong footed LB who’s been playing there recently? Or a out of form, lefty LB who, when on the field, played CM?

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    • Posted by matthewsf on 2011/06/09 at 4:17 PM

      In terms of this game Alex and needing to provide width, I’m not sure Lichaj is the best option, however I can see him usurping Bornstein’s spot in the depth chart at some point if he continues to progress.

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      • Posted by Alex on 2011/06/09 at 4:56 PM

        I agree – the wrongfooted Lichaj had a habit of pinching in and losing possession vs. Spain. I am not as big of a Bornstein detractor as most, because hell, at least he’s left-footed. Having Lichaj as an LB means less room for Dempsey and no service from the left-side. Playing Boca there, too, means little service because he just doesn’t have the motor anymore for overlaps. Hope Bornstein gets a run v. Panama.

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    • Posted by Colin on 2011/06/10 at 4:35 AM

      I’m with you here…at this point, Agudelo has looked much more effective coming off the bench.

      Matches against South Africa, Chile, and Argentina (2 goals and drew a penalty) were all off the bench…while the matches against Paraguay, Spain, and Canada (0 goals) have been starts.

      I realize this is a small sample size…but thats how its looked to me as well.

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  3. Posted by EFG on 2011/06/09 at 1:04 PM

    The Suez Canal is in Egypt. I got so confused by the ference I immediately stopped reading to “complain”.

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    • Posted by EFG on 2011/06/09 at 1:04 PM

      *reference

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    • Posted by John Henry on 2011/06/09 at 1:23 PM

      haha

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    • Posted by matthewsf on 2011/06/09 at 1:35 PM

      Eric it’s “reference” not “ference” — ference is usually what happens when TSG writes too quickly. Bad joke.

      I have (re)moved the Suez Canal.

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      • Posted by EFG on 2011/06/09 at 1:42 PM

        The Panamanians are very proud of the Canal and are very appreciative of America for building it and handing it over and I’d hate for them to be slighted.

        Also, Panama is GREAT, inexpensive vacation destination. Highly recommend.

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        • Posted by dth on 2011/06/09 at 1:50 PM

          Too bad the Chinese are building a newer, cooler canal in Colombia.

          (Trivia fact: Teddy Roosevelt actually planned to build the canal in present-day Colombia in the first place, but the Colombian government was not being as accommodating as he’d like, so he encouraged Panama to revolt and built the canal there.)

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          • Posted by EFG on 2011/06/09 at 2:00 PM

            I thought it was a railway connecting the Caribbean to the Pacific.

            Anyways, sorry to turn this to Geography/Current Events/History Hour over here, Matthew. I’ll be sure to steer it back to the previously schedule topic at hand. However, when I agree with everything, I don’t have much to say.

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          • 2nd trivia fact:

            The French initially attempted and failed at building the canal (too many workers died of Malaria), then the Americans successfully completed the canal over 30 years later (still suffering thousands of deaths. Is that a sign of American stubbornness or a culture of poor working conditions in our capitalist society? Or is it the “C’est la vie” French attitude?
            (In all actuality it helped that they learned in those 30 years, that mosquitos carried malaria and took precautions.)

            Anywho. Would love to see Lichaj started at LB; do not think it would be that risky. Worth another shot with the rest of the starting XI as above

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            • Posted by EFG on 2011/06/09 at 4:55 PM

              Fun fact the Third: Panama uses the American Dollar

              I’m not real crazy about Lichaj starting on Saturday. I wouldn’t be upset if he were out there but I think “risks” should wait until if/when progression to the quarterfinals is assured. I would rather get the cohesion between the back four for the later rounds (no jinx) then switching it up to for no other reason than to “just switch it up.”

              I’m also glad to see that this board, unlike other boards I’ve seen, hasn’t blindly been calling for Adu.

            • As far as the Adu thing is concerned, we who comment and/or write for TSG seem to be a little more intellectual with our commentary…

              While I wouldn’t mind seeing Adu get a run with the A Squad to see where he’s at, I don’t believe that the Panama game is the one to do it in, IF the game is tight. Though Freddy seenms to be one of the few capable people in our player pool that could POSSIBLY unlock a bunkered defense – well he and Bornstein.

              The biggest roadblock to Adu’s playing time is the Gold Cup’s baffling roster regulations. As far as I know all other federation tournaments and the World Cup allow a 23 man squad and all 23 are available on game day. Where as the Gold Cup allows the 23 man-squad but game days force selecting 18 to repreent the country. Knowing Bobbo as little as well do, I’m sure Adu is being left off due to not beating out 5 other guys on the squad in terms of overall talent and how he and his skillset fit into the US plans for the matches.

          • Posted by Nelsonaoatl on 2011/06/10 at 12:14 AM

            also, the French started construction but didn’t understand Mosquitos so they lost.

            high buildings, nets, and proper irrigation led to American success.

            the Chinese are now or brothers. nixon initiated it in the 70s. the haters can hate…but I’m on that Gatorade. lol

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  4. Before seeing Rogers or Kljestan again what about Bedoya getting a run as a sub? Possibly at RM with Donovan switched to LM over top of Lichaj. If severing the Dolo/Donovan combo is too great what about Bedoya pinching in Demps role at the left, assuming Lichaj or JB on the same side?

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    • Posted by Alex on 2011/06/09 at 5:04 PM

      You know what I’d love if we were to see Bedoya in? 4-3-3

      Dolo-Ream-Goodson-Bornstein/Boca
      Bradley-Bedoya-Jones
      Donovan-Altidore-Dempsey

      Have never played much 4-3-3 but it’s always seemed a great way to get FBs some great runs up the flanks – we play narrow anyway, so we aren’t sacrificing our width. Altidore can drops back and hit Donovan overlaps after receiving a back-to-goal pass from Jones, Bradley, or Bedoya, or alternatively nab a ball over the top or from one of Demps or Donovan.

      Also if Dempsey go up top, we can revert to our 4-4-2 with Bedoya on the left wing cutting in to his strong foot.

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      • Switch Bedoya and Dempsey. Give Dempsey free roam to find holes in the defense like Xavi. Although don’t misunderstand me. I am not trying to say Dempsey can play like Xavi. But he can fulfill the same purpose of breaking down the defense, just not in the same attacking style. If you don’t want Dempsey with the space, than your next best option is Donovan, but I don’t know if Donovan can fulfill this task. Also even if this is a viable option we would still have to wait until the next friendly because the Gold Cup is no place to try this out. Realistically though, this isn’t too much different from the 4-2-3-1.

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        • Posted by dth on 2011/06/10 at 5:12 PM

          Don’t think Xavi’s the example you’re looking for–Xavi isn’t a #10, he’s a world-class linking player. (though Xavi’s so good he can pretend to be a #10 better than 70% of #10s).

          The thing about Bedoya that I’ve always been wondering: Bedoya plays centrally for his club, which is a very good one in Sweden. Bedoya’s been switched wide for the USMNT, and has basically been average. Why hasn’t he gotten a shot to play his apparently natural position?

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          • Posted by Jared on 2011/06/11 at 3:14 AM

            He hasn’t gotten a shot in that position because he’s too attack minded for Bunker Bob. If you’re not a d mid then you don’t play in the middle because he needs his 2 dmids in the middle of the 4-4-2. He also doesn’t seem to rate Bedoya very highly either or else he would’ve been in the squad ahead of Robbie Rogers who shouldn’t ever be in anything other than a Camp Cupcake to take on Sweden’s D team.

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          • Posted by matthewsf on 2011/06/11 at 10:06 AM

            Great comment thread here everyone.

            Agree on Bedoya….Bradley has some merit in choosing more defensive minded players — his central defense has always been challenged.

            That said, we get back to the philosophy debate about whether offense and possession is the best defense sometimes.

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  5. Posted by MJ on 2011/06/09 at 3:25 PM

    Don’t know where to put this but, regarding the your twitter comment that some Mexican players tested positive for Clenbuterol:

    Having expounded the benefits and effectiveness of the Athlete Biological Passport system on cycling in our last two posts, a slightly more down-to-earth deviation today to just mention two recent cases where professional cyclists have been exonerated despite failing doping controls for clenbuterol.

    The cyclists, Rudi van Houts and Phillip Nielsen, failed tests last year, including the testing of B-samples, but were recently cleared of any wrongdoing, based on their defense that the drug entered their system as a result of contaminated meat. Both failed the tests after racing or training in Mexico (where, admittedly, it has been alleged that almost 20% of meat is treated and thus contaminated with clenbuterol).

    -from http://www.sportsscientists.com/2011/03/time-for-clenbuterol-to-retire-from.html

    And, just to out myself, I’m no expert and, yes, all I did was google it.

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    • Posted by MJ on 2011/06/09 at 3:54 PM

      Hmm but the CONCACAF article says that positive results via meat are rare. Guess we’ll see.

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      • Posted by Nelsonaoatl on 2011/06/10 at 6:40 AM

        yeah, this is ridic.

        clearly the trainers are taking them to the infamous restaurants to beef them up for tourneys. the rule should be rewritten.

        side note: Tony Gonzalez is vegan. you can get protein without meat…argh

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    • Posted by Colin on 2011/06/10 at 4:45 AM

      I’m fairly certain thats the same thing that 3-time tour de france winner alberto contador tested positive for during last summer’s tour and his defense was the same thing – contaminated meat. He was cleared for any wrong doing as well.

      It was clearly the case too, because the positive test was during a rest day while he passed tests both the day before and the day after…which were cycling days. Why would a rider take something on a rest day? Also, on rest days, the riders are allowed to eat out…whereas on riding days, their food is controlled by their physios.

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  6. Does Lichaj deserve another chance to prove himself at LB with the full starting XI?

    Guadeloupe match would look more likely for an appearance but it might be worth risking it this match. Would having an inexperienced Lichaj next to Ream unbalance the backline that much?

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    • Posted by matthewsf on 2011/06/09 at 4:19 PM

      I could see that in Game 3 if the Yanks already have two wins.

      It’s not like the States are playing any top-50 FIFA clubs in their group. No time like the present.

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      • Posted by Alex on 2011/06/09 at 5:06 PM

        Am I crazy to read all about this wrong-footed LBs or playing guys who play DFM for their club teams and think… where’s Bobby Convey?

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        • Posted by matthewsf on 2011/06/09 at 5:22 PM

          I don’t think so Alex. The real challenge with Convey–as SJE is witnessing now after a solid campaign from last year–is his willingness to be team oriented. There’s no secret of that in MLS circles.

          I, Matt at TSG, maintain that any team can win with/survive with one Dennis Rodman. Bob Bradley unequivocally doesn’t think that way.

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          • Posted by Jared on 2011/06/10 at 7:45 AM

            Convey belongs on the team. He’s got the talent and as Matt says you can have one headcase. Anymore than that and you run into trouble. Bob’s whole ethos won’t let him call in a guy like that though because it’s all about the team for him sometimes to the detriment of the team.

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            • Posted by Martin on 2011/06/10 at 3:52 PM

              I saw Convey when he played LB for the US and for DC United and it was clear to me his best position was as a left winger/midfielder.

              As for whether or not the USMNT can afford one head case, it seems to me it’s not the quantity, it’s the quality.

              Rodman was a looney tune off the field but as far as I can remember he was fine with his team and certainly fine on court. If Convey was a World class left back like A. Cole or R.Carlos in their primes ( same level as Rodman) then fine you put up with it.

              But if you are a World class looney bin psycho, w/o the world class talent, well you’d be amazed how quickly one wack job can poison the well. .

              I see no reason to interrupt Lichaj’s development there if indeed left back is where he will stay ( he plays there at Leeds). There are plenty of good right footed left backs ( Abidal of Barcelona, Gael Clichy of Arsenal)out there.

          • Posted by dth on 2011/06/10 at 10:10 AM

            The difference between Rodman and Convey is that Rodman was actually a good player and therefore worth the trouble.

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  7. Posted by Jen on 2011/06/09 at 4:03 PM

    Hoping none of the big guys sit, especially Dolo, for purely selfish reasons. Going to the game Sat, 1st since ’03 and want to see them all play.

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  8. This is the first time in a long time that I can remember thinking “keeping the same lineup as last match makes a lot of sense.” Have to give Bradley & co. credit for trusting in Ream, Goodson, etc.

    Is it a weird feeling to be cautiously optimistic that there is some cohesiveness across the entire starting XI and no big* weak links? Hopefully the team keeps progressing on Saturday.

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  9. Big question left to answer:
    What is the go-to impact substitution/ attack minded rearrangement in the second half? Wondo coming on or Kljestan etc all?
    In my mind subbing out Altidore (depending on match preformance) pushing Demps up to a false 9, leaving in Agudelo, and bringing on Bedoya/Kljestan/Rogers may be best.

    This match could go a long way towards sorting out the sub situation (if it stays close).

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    • Posted by Dan on 2011/06/10 at 2:47 AM

      Assuming it’s Altidore and Agudelo up top to start, I’d bet on another Wondo appearance. Bob seems to have a soft spot for him, and he’s shown me absolutely nothing in a United States uniform… he’s pretty invisible out there. I thought Sasha did well when he came in but if we see a healthy lead midway through the second half I wouldn’t be surprised if this is where we see a guy like Robbie Rodgers tested, and dare I say it- Freddy Adu? Unlikely yes, but in this weaker group, we should have some room to play around with these younger guys and see where they fit in. If it’s a closer game, forget everything I just said and pray to the gods for a late goal.

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      • Posted by Martin on 2011/06/11 at 9:13 AM

        “I’d bet on another Wondo appearance. Bob seems to have a soft spot for him, and he’s shown me absolutely nothing in a United States uniform… he’s pretty invisible out there. ”

        Wondo has 3 appearances or the US. I believe his minutes may not add up to 90.

        You are a little impatient don’t you think?

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  10. Posted by Nelsonaoatl on 2011/06/10 at 6:42 AM

    quick question: when is the game? who’s televising

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    • Posted by Andy_4Lakes on 2011/06/10 at 7:28 AM

      Saturday, 6:30est I think. televised on Fox Soccer. And I have to add, listening to the Dan Patrick radio show on my way in to work, an ad ran for Saturday’s game and the Gold Cup. good stuff.

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  11. Posted by kaya on 2011/06/10 at 5:19 PM

    POS. I hate Fox Soccer. I thought I was going to watch all the GC games whenever I pleased on ESPN 3. What’s the latest on the ‘Jicano camp?
    The Canal Trivia is a nice addition to the comments section.

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    • Posted by Dave on 2011/06/10 at 5:36 PM

      All Gold Cup games are live on one of the Univisión networks (Telefutura for this game) and streamed live from the Univisión website(go to http://futbol.univision.com/horarios-por-tv/; the red EN VIVO button is for the streams). I don’t have the bandwidth for the streams, but a usually reliable poster on another site says they’re free. I believe Concacaf website also streams the games, but I don’t know if they could have conflicts with rights holders in the U.S.
      As an aside, while there are a lot of soccer viewing options in the US now, Univisión has a long record of making soccer, including a lot of USMNT soccer, available in the US. If you understand Spanish you’ll notice their narrators have a lot more fun than the too serious English language guys(OK, that’s just my opinion).

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      • I’ll second watching the games on Univision. Not sure if it’s something with my ISP/cable company where I live, but the CONCACAF streams are blocked for me. Best choice for me has been Univision/Telefutura HD over-the-air broadcasts; if I can’t get those, I’ve been using the futbol.univision.com streams. Decent quality; no signup or anything.

        Knowing only a few words/phrases in Spanish, I’m getting a kick out of hearing the Univision announcers.

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        • Posted by dth on 2011/06/10 at 8:54 PM

          The announcers’ calling Tim Howard “Duck” (El Pato) is a mysterious humorous example.

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          • Posted by Martin on 2011/06/11 at 9:15 AM

            Howard the Duck

            A 1986 movie and a Marvel comic book in case you are too young to remember.

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      • Posted by Jared on 2011/06/11 at 3:16 AM

        The Concacaf site is only streaming US games in the US. Anything else is only available through Univision’s stream.

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    • Posted by dth on 2011/06/10 at 6:35 PM

      By the by, Grenada’s up 1-0 on Honduras. Think Andy Najar is somewhere chortling (in his low-key, private kind of a way)?

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      • Posted by dth on 2011/06/10 at 9:03 PM

        After going to HT 1-0, Honduras decided to score 7. 7-1.

        Think the tournament might do with some better competition? Copa Americas would be ideal but perhaps the compromise option is an eight-team tournament. (Groups of, say, Mexico/Honduras/El Salvador/Guatemala and US/Costa Rica/Jamaica/Canada look somewhat more difficult than the current stuff.)

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      • Posted by Martin on 2011/06/11 at 9:08 AM

        Since Honduras did not call Najar up he is still tecnically eligible for the US ,correct?

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        • Posted by dth on 2011/06/11 at 9:51 AM

          Well, he’d need to get citizenship first. But yes, there’s still an infinitesimally small chance.

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  12. Posted by Nelsonaoatl on 2011/06/10 at 10:02 PM

    ducks are very territorial and the lead or back duck can organize formation. it’s an astute metaphor

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  13. Posted by Antonio H. on 2011/06/10 at 10:40 PM

    If I wasn’t so daggone busy all the time I wouldve loved to do a preview of the panamanian squad. I have a lot of pride in my father’s native country and follow the national team here and there. Fortunately my birthday is tomorrow so I get a fantastic treat in having my loyalties divided. I know Ddaent only has 2 caps but his partner is the seasoned Felipe Baloy. And that’s the match-up I’ll be preoccupied with all night. It’ll be interesting to see whether baloy is farting dust now or if he can bottle up Joz’

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  14. Posted by Danimal on 2011/06/11 at 3:33 AM

    Fun Panama advice.
    Never ever go to Colón, the town on the Caribbean side of the canal. I’ve seen some sketchy ports in various parts of the world but I had no desire to get off the ship there.

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    • Posted by Antonio H. on 2011/06/11 at 7:33 AM

      Colon is probably one of the nost terrible slums I’ve ever seen or heard of. I’ve been to Panama twice and the roads there are like exaggerated hills, with the bottoms being on either side of the street. And the sidewalks are super elevated tso the kids sit there on the edge of the street just off of the sidewalk playing in 2.5 ft high dirty, contaminated wate. Pretty sad if you ask mer

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  15. Posted by Nelsonaoatl on 2011/06/11 at 4:32 AM

    ducks are very territorial and the lead or back duck can organize formation. it’s an astute metaphor

    ps

    how far is KC from St Louis

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    • 4 hours. If you are driving you hop on I-70/40 and head west all the way across the state of Missouri.

      Livestrong Sporting Park is in Kansas City, KS not Kansas City, MO. So you have to drive west (past) the city in MO. If there is construction or you hit it at work traffic it could take a little extra. Really traffic isn’t bad there, even if you come to a dead stop it will clear up in a few minutes, just stay on the highway.

      * I have only been there once, but I-70 is really just a highway in the middle of big open farming space and big open skies.

      You could always fly?

      P.S. if you are around Kansas City, MO and have extra time checkout the Negros Leagues Baseball Museum and Jazz Museum (They are in the same building). The Jazz museum was especially interactive and interesting.
      http://www.americanjazzmuseum.com

      Also they have quite a few BBQ restaurants around there that are very good. Sorry for the overload of info. Enjoy the match.

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  16. Posted by mr. adams on 2011/06/11 at 8:01 PM

    what an pathetic match. being in the stands for this one was painful and disappointing. what a joke of a referee. what a joke of a game. bad calls and luck dictated the outcome–concacaf must do better, usa must do better.

    on a brighter note, bedoya: one thumb up; sasha: three thumbs up.

    on a darker note, centerback pairing not looking so good anymore.

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