Secondhand Training Camp Notes: May 17th

Princeton training ground...

TSG will try to get a representative to Princeton tomorrow. The media is allowed 15 minutes to spend with the players at the end of practice–thus it didn’t warrant a trip from the West Coast for yours truly–and the media observes from the edge of and outside of the practice grounds.

• From MLS Insider: Buddle, Donovan and Torres are undergoing physicals in Philadelphia.

• From Grant Wahl on player impediments on Twitter:

» Tim Howard did not train today for US. Slight quad strain. Bocanegra and DeMerit training on own. Marshall & Johnson also training on own.

• From solid Washington Post reporter Steve Goff:

» Goff has Bradley’s comments on the Charlie Davies situation today right here. An excerpt below:

Bradley shared a conversation that he had with Davies in February.

“I told him that I felt that, if he could keep his attitude, his mentality, his work ethic, that that was going to be very important. But I also said, ‘If you can find a way to work and put everything into it and maybe not have so much to say, I think it would work for you. You don’t want to put yourself into position that you are making all this progress, and yet somehow it seems like a failure because the timing just doesn’t coincide with the World Cup. What is most important is that you can still get yourself back to the level that you were playing before the accident.’

» Goff also contributes on roster cuts:

Asked about his timeline for trimming the roster to 23, Bradley said he would like to make the cuts after the first friendly against the Czech Republic next Tuesday in East Hartford, Conn.

“Hopefully. Like anything else, you have a plan in your head, but then you have to be able to adjust at some points. But the idea would be that, by the time we get to Philadelphia, we have made our decisions and we our 23.”

Solid reporting from Mr. Goff…thank you.


A note not from camp, Alejandro Bedoya’s brother Santi is scheduled for a trial with Orebro. Ale told us about this in the interview,  now it is confirmed.

13 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by djtigerdave on 2010/05/17 at 11:40 AM

    Looks like Goff will be our go to reporter for Camp Redemption. Is anyone from SBI there? Wahl had some good Twitter updates but he may need to start up his blog again on SI to keep up with Goff.


  2. Posted by matthewsf on 2010/05/17 at 11:54 AM

    I think actually the best bet will be the MNT blog, but after that Steve Goff for sure. He’s very solid.


  3. Posted by Jimmy Salango on 2010/05/17 at 12:35 PM

    Is anyone planning on going to the airport when the team flies out Sunday after the Turkey game in Philly?


  4. Posted by KMac on 2010/05/17 at 1:03 PM

    I read they fly out of DC.


  5. Posted by Jimmy Salango on 2010/05/17 at 1:25 PM



  6. Posted by kaya on 2010/05/17 at 3:14 PM

    Congrats on the gig with the other Guardian, Matt.


  7. “But the idea would be that, by the time WE GET to Philadelphia, we have made our decisions and we our 23.” – Bob Bradley

    Reading between the lines this seems to mean that the Czech game is going to be a big experimental game, where we probably see Buddle start up top with Altidore and (hopefully) see Bocanegra /Heath split time.

    Personally I’m all for this strategy as long as in the Turkey game we see Dempsey tried up top to start in probably a 4-4-1-1. Then at the end give Buddle (or whomever made the cut more time).

    What would I like to see:

    Czech Game:
    Dolo / Gooch / Demerit / Boca
    Dempsey / MB / Edu / Donovan
    Altidore / Buddle

    Switch in Pearce for Boca at half. Give arm band to Demerit or Dolo.
    Bring in Gomez (if proven to be multidimensional in camp) or Findley for Buddle after 60min?
    Dream: Sub MB for Feilhaber / Holden/ Torres at 70min
    DMB comes on (or maybe Torres pending camp), Donovan switches to RM, Dempsey off at 70 min
    conversely if DMB has punched a ticket then Bodoya comes on for Dempsey.
    Maybe, give some time to Goodson taking out Gooch late in the game or earlier?

    Turkey Game:
    Spector / Gooch / Demerit / LB KING OF THE HILL (would like to see Pearce get the start)
    Holden / MB / Edu / Donovan

    On Bench: Buddle, Ching, Feilhaber, Clark, Bedoya, DMB, Dolo, Goodson, Boca/Pearce, Bornstein,
    Hannemann, Guzan

    Change in LB as necessary
    Bocanegra for Demerit at some point or for Pearce/Bornstein if not already LB
    Dream: Sub MB for Feilhaber at 70min pending game situation

    BB gets chance to show in game substitution IN A NON-QUALIFYING / EXPERIMENTATION setting. I think he might do (hopefully) somewhat better if he doesn’t have to think “maybe I should try bornstein one more time at CB”. I do have to give him some credit that he has tried to experiement, sometimes well, sometimes not so well. Hopefully he might not keep guys in too long when it really matters.


  8. Posted by Bob on 2010/05/17 at 8:20 PM

    I am wondering if Boca’s injury is more serious than “overcompensating” for a left knee injury. He himself said that he was afraid that he would not make the WC. Now, that he is in camp, he is training on his own, which does not sound good. I am not jumping to conclusions but it seems with all the talk about Davies that Boca’s situation has flown under the radar for USMNT fans.


  9. Posted by JW on 2010/05/17 at 11:12 PM

    I am guessing they won’t push Gooch too much the first game and he will be off sometime in the second half.

    What i am wondering is that since we really have Altidore as the sure thing forward. How is Bradley really going to effectively see Buddle, Johnson, Findley, Gomez and Ching in one game?

    I guess he will probably take Ching anyway for the skill set he provides and can afford not to play him in the first friendly, but some of these guys are going to really have to win the chance in camp. Should be interesting because there does not seem to be enough minutes in one game to give these guys a quality chance.


  10. Posted by Nick on 2010/05/18 at 6:00 AM

    I just re-read Bradley’s comments and this one really jumped out at me:

    ‘If you can find a way to work and put everything into it and maybe not have so much to say, I think it would work for you. You don’t want to put yourself into position that you are making all this progress, and yet somehow it seems like a failure because the timing just doesn’t coincide with the World Cup.’

    No one knows for sure if Bradley was well versed enough to put it this way back in February and just amended it over time to sound good or what, but man that’s a great quote from a father-type to a young player. I think most of us can agree that Charlie’s progress, regardless of making the WC 30-man roster or not, is nowhere near a failure; however, I think we all kind of feel a little deflated about the whole situation, and Charlie even more so.


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